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Article - Editorial 2005-09-19

Check It Down You Moron!


by TommyTwoToes
poker player

Yes sometimes I want to scream at the top of my lungs "CHECK IT DOWN YOU MORON!”, as a guy bets into an empty side pot. But alas I can't say anything because it would be considered collusion. It amazes me the blatant stupidity that I see in poker tournaments, I guess it shouldn't, cause there are a lot of stupid people in the world. Man it's hard being perfect.

This Sunday as I played in a slew of online tournaments and cash games and amazingly I saw some really stupid things and this has motivated me to write this article to help you avoid being considered a moron at the poker table.

Since I only have a limited amount of time and energy I am going to just cover the main motivation for this piece which is the classic situation of being in a tournament and the small stack is all in and it is not much more or is even less than the big blind. Often the big blind is calling anything that is not a significant raise; actually it is his duty to call if it is less than one full bet in my opinion. Thus all you morons out there stop offering protection  by re-raising. Also don’t be one of those idiots in the big blind that folds when the blinds are 200-400 and the guy is all in for 500 freaking suck it up and call even if you got 2-7 off. The main goal in this situation is to eliminate the small stack and for everyone else to relax knowing that they made the money. and the best way of doing that is having as many people as possible drawing against the small stacks all in. So DONT FUCKING RERAISE before the big blind. If you got a solid hand call don’t raise. The Big blind knows what is going down if he is an intelligent player and will check it down with you. If he happens to win so be it but the main point is to not let the small stack win.

So you have just called the all in. And the flop comes out, and low and behold you hit trip aces!!! What do you do? Check. Yep plain and simple check, don’t be a retard. Don’t be the guy that bets into a dry side pot. Don't be the guy that triples up the small stack by forcing the other player out by betting. Ya its hard sometimes, you flop top set and you want to get aggressive and make more money but what you don’t realize is that the small stack that went all in pre-flop has he nut straight, and you betting will chase out the guy that would have caught runner runner for a flush and have eliminated the small stack. So don't be the moron that keeps the small stack alive. It’s for your own good. If the small stack loses then you just made the money. If he wins you still have a chance of losing and not making the money.

A prime example of this came up on Sunday i was in a $100 SNG on party poker. I was the huge stack with about $6500 in chips and in the big blind with K-8 of diamonds (blinds are 150-300). The Small stack was on the button and goes all-in for around 350. The small blind thinks about it then just calls. I was personally thinking wow the small blind may not be as dumb as he has been playing the entire game. Maybe he is going to check it down with me. Well the flop comes out 2d-Qd-Qc, so I have a decent flush draw. I was fully expecting a check from the small blind, but nooo what does moron boy do he bets the minimum of 300. I was thinking well if this was an intelligent player he would have just checked it down or maybe he is signaling that he has a Q and wants to make more money on the hand. I think about it then decide that I have more than enough chips and outs to call and that even if he also went all in I would still be the big stack at the table. So I call and the turn comes out it’s a K so now I have a flush draw and top pair. I was still expecting a check from the moron. But no he decides to bet again this time 600. This to say the least annoyed me even further, and I decided that I was going to be a jerk. I re-raised the moron all in. He sat there thinking about it then folded after telling me that he had a pocket pair, a pair of threes, like he had a monster. What a pair of threes? Are you freaking brain damaged? I thought to myself. Then the river comes out, it was a 7 or something that made no difference. I missed my flush but the small stack all in only had a pair of 9's. If I had folded to the bet on the flop or folded to the turn bet the small stack would have won and still been in the game armed with enough chips to bluff a few times and potentially make a comeback. Good thing I was paying attention enough to know that the small blind was a moron and to not fold.

So I have covered what makes you a moron. But when is it ok to bet?  well in my opinion it is ok to bet when you truly have a great hand like a full house or the nut flush or a straight , or even top set when there are no flush or straight possibilities after the turn and you are holding a pocket pair to make that set.  Don’t bet with a single pair. It is also ok to bet it you have top pair and a good kicker and the river has come out, the only reason that the other person you were checking it down with will call is if he has a hand. He was just in this hand to make sure that the other guy was knocked out to begin with. The other time it is ok to bet is when the all in opponent has so few chips it does not matter and by virtue of calling the side pot is larger than the main pot. Then I would say it is acceptable to play that hand like the all in player never existed.

Basically you main motivation in this situation is not to win the hand but to insure that you make the money by knocking the small stack out. I hope that what I have described here is helpful. And if you have any questions or comments or how I can make this "how to" better please let me know.

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